Zimmerly St, Wichita KS street index
Residents
- 2 beds
- 1 bath
- 676 sqft
- Built in 1950
Facts
Lot size: 6,970 sqft
Rooms: 4
Foundation type: Concrete
Parking: Garage - Attached, 200 sqft

Who has lived here
Resident | Phone Number | Additional info | |
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C Boyle
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316-682-****
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James Louis Walker Age: 88
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- 2 beds
- 1 bath
- Lot: 6,534 sqft
- Built in 1950
Facts
Lot size: 6,534 sqft
Rooms: 4
Foundation type: Concrete
Parking: Garage - Attached, 200 sqft

Who has lived here
Resident | Phone Number | Additional info | |
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John Parker Funchess
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316-469-****
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Jeff A Leritz Age: 63
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316-685-****
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Jeffrey A Leritz Age: 63
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316-685-****
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- 3 beds
- 2 baths
- Lot: 9,148 sqft
- Built in 1953
Facts
Lot size: 9,148 sqft
Rooms: 5
Stories: 1
Foundation type: Concrete
Parking: Garage - Attached, 400 sqft

Who has lived here
Resident | Phone Number | Additional info | |
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Industry:
Apartment Building Operator
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Keith P Pendergraft
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316-684-****
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Loretta M Pendergraft Age: 107
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316-684-****
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Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Professional Specialty Occupations
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- 3 beds
- 1 bath
- Lot: 9,148 sqft
- Built in 1953
Facts
Lot size: 9,148 sqft
Rooms: 6
Foundation type: Concrete
Parking: Garage - Attached, 400 sqft

Who has lived here
Resident | Phone Number | Additional info | |
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Gus Heimerson
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316-686-****
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Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Executive, Administrative, and Managerial Occupations
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Roger Heimerson
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316-686-****
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Wilma Heimerson
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316-686-****
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Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Executive, Administrative, and Managerial Occupations
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- 3 beds
- 2 baths
- 2,047 sqft
- Built in 1952
Facts
Lot size: 0.27 acres
Rooms: 6
Stories: 1
Foundation type: Concrete
Parking: Off street, 600 sqft

Who has lived here
Resident | Phone Number | Additional info | |
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Alfred L Steiner
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316-686-****
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Barbara J Unruh Age: 97
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316-682-****
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- 3 beds
- 1 bath
- Lot: 8,712 sqft
- Built in 1947
Facts
Lot size: 8,712 sqft
Rooms: 6
Foundation type: Masonry
Parking: Garage - Attached, 200 sqft

Who has lived here
Resident | Phone Number | Additional info | |
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Ida Allen
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316-618-****
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Ina Guinn Age: 44
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316-682-****
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Email:
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Ina M Neely Age: 62
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316-682-****
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Mary Weldon Age: 105
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Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Production Occupations
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Oral M Weldon
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316-684-****
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Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Production Occupations
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- 2 beds
- 1 bath
- Lot: 7,405 sqft
- Built in 1950
Facts
Lot size: 7,405 sqft
Rooms: 4
Foundation type: Concrete
Parking: Garage - Detached, 400 sqft

Who has lived here
Resident | Phone Number | Additional info | |
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Lois E Cole
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620-221-****
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Residential status:
Homeowner
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Shane W Cole Age: 54
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316-612-****
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Residential status:
Renter
Job:
Technicians and Related Support Occupations
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Anna M Meyerhoff
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785-650-****
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- 3 beds
- 2 baths
- Lot: 8,712 sqft
- Built in 1952
Facts
Lot size: 8,712 sqft
Rooms: 8
Stories: 1
Foundation type: Concrete
Parking: Garage - Attached, 400 sqft

Who has lived here
Resident | Phone Number | Additional info | |
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Jeanette Blide
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316-682-****
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Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Building and Grounds Cleaning and Maintenance Occupations
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Richard K Blide Age: 92
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316-682-****
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Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Building and Grounds Cleaning and Maintenance Occupations
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Wilma Blide Age: 87
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316-682-****
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Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Building and Grounds Cleaning and Maintenance Occupations
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- 2 beds
- 1 bath
- Lot: 8,276 sqft
- Built in 1950
Facts
Lot size: 8,276 sqft
Rooms: 5
Foundation type: Concrete
Parking: Garage - Attached, 200 sqft

Who has lived here
Resident | Phone Number | Additional info | |
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Chad L Gibbs
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Bernadine Stead
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316-684-****
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Ed Vaughan
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316-684-****
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Edward D Vaughan Age: 69
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316-684-****
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Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Food Preparation and Serving Related Occupations
Email:
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Joni Vaughan
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316-684-****
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Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Food Preparation and Serving Related Occupations
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- 3 beds
- 1 bath
- Lot: 7,841 sqft
- Built in 1952
Facts
Lot size: 7,841 sqft
Rooms: 6
Foundation type: Concrete
Parking: Garage - Attached, 200 sqft

Who has lived here
Resident | Phone Number | Additional info | |
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Clarence Lauchner
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316-683-****
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Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Production Occupations
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Leslie Lauchner
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316-683-****
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Rueldine Lauchner
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316-683-****
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Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Production Occupations
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- 3 beds
- 1 bath
- 1,783 sqft
- Built in 1953
Facts
Lot size: 6,098 sqft
Rooms: 5
Foundation type: Concrete
Parking: Garage - Attached, 1 space, 200 sqft

Who has lived here
Resident | Phone Number | Additional info | |
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Jenny M Bowers
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316-618-****
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Luis Bowers
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316-618-****
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Robert W Bowers-Ii
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316-618-****
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Jenny M Reyes Age: 49
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316-618-****
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Robert L Reyes
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316-618-****
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- 3 beds
- 2 baths
- Lot: 7,841 sqft
- Built in 1954
Facts
Lot size: 7,841 sqft
Rooms: 5
Stories: 1
Foundation type: Concrete
Parking: Garage - Attached, 400 sqft

Who has lived here
Resident | Phone Number | Additional info | |
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316-684-****
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Industry:
Services-Misc
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Susanna K Hutcheson Age: 81
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316-742-****
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Residential status:
Homeowner
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William J Wellshear Age: 90
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Who has lived here
Resident | Phone Number | Additional info | |
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Delores F Hale
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316-686-****
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Catherine M Holt Age: 84
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316-686-****
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Who has lived here
Resident | Phone Number | Additional info | |
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Thomas Ebben
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Anthony Marrone
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316-688-****
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Michelle Marrone
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316-688-****
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Art Morgan
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316-651-****
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Who has lived here
Resident | Phone Number | Additional info | |
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Kimberly J Mcenulty
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316-683-****
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Mary C Mcenulty Age: 97
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316-683-****
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Michael C Mcenulty Age: 63
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316-683-****
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Ronald R Mcenulty Age: 97
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316-683-****
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Sean Mcenulty Age: 64
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316-684-****
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Who has lived here
Resident | Phone Number | Additional info | |
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I E Harned
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316-612-****
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Loyd E Harned Age: 104
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316-612-****
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Who has lived here
Resident | Phone Number | Additional info | |
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Emily Lafleur
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316-684-****
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Joe M Lafleur
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316-684-****
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Joey Lafleur Age: 44
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316-684-****
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Joseph M Lafleur Age: 65
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316-684-****
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Crystal L Wakefield Age: 50
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316-652-****
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Who has lived here
Resident | Phone Number | Additional info | |
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John B Bernhardt
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316-685-****
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Kimberly Haug
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316-295-****
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Who has lived here
Resident | Phone Number | Additional info | |
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Suchayan Chowdhury
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316-682-****
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Michael J Magennis Age: 59
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316-682-****
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Dennis Manson
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316-682-****
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Donald L Manson Age: 98
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316-682-****
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Who has lived here
Resident | Phone Number | Additional info | |
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Vaughn L Anderson
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316-687-****
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Who has lived here
Resident | Phone Number | Additional info | |
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Allison Harned
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316-683-****
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Ed R Harned Age: 82
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316-683-****
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Edwin R Harned Age: 82
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316-683-****
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Who has lived here
Resident | Phone Number | Additional info | |
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Gene M Jenkins
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316-682-****
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Marlene Wilcox Age: 71
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316-681-****
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Who has lived here
Resident | Phone Number | Additional info | |
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316-688-****
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Categories:
Recreation Centers
Industry:
Recreation Center for Adults & Children
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316-688-****
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Industry:
Amusement and Recreation, NEC
SIC:
7999 - Amusement and Recreation Services, Not Elsewhere Classified
Site:
wichitagov.org
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Alan Taber
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316-688-****
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Email:
Organization:
Boston Recreation Ctr
Title:
Executive Director
Industry:
Amusement and Recreation, NEC
Site:
wichitagov.org
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Industry:
Junior College
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- 3 beds
- 1 bath
- 2,022 sqft
- Built in 1966
Facts
Lot size: 0.28 acres
Rooms: 7
Foundation type: Concrete
Parking: Off street, 200 sqft

Who has lived here
Resident | Phone Number | Additional info | |
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Leonard M Hanks
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316-688-****
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R M Hanks Age: 68
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Residential status:
Homeowner
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Rita M Hanks Age: 68
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316-683-****
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N C Hanlon
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316-683-****
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M Leonard
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316-683-****
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- 3 beds
- 2 baths
- 2,244 sqft
- Built in 1967
Facts
Lot size: 0.29 acres
Rooms: 6
Foundation type: Concrete
Parking: Garage - Attached, 400 sqft

Who has lived here
Resident | Phone Number | Additional info | |
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E Eberle
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Lila A Frazier
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316-684-****
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Residential status:
Renter
Job:
Executive, Administrative, and Managerial
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Pat Frazier
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316-684-****
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Patrick Frazier
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316-706-****
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Bridgett L Hunt
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316-686-****
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- 3 beds
- 2 baths
- Lot: 0.27 acres
- Built in 1967
Facts
Lot size: 0.27 acres
Rooms: 6
Foundation type: Concrete
Parking: Garage - Attached, 400 sqft

Who has lived here
Resident | Phone Number | Additional info | |
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401-421-****
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James C Graham Age: 81
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316-682-****
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Pauline Graham
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316-727-****
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Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Service Occupations
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Emily N Halperin Age: 28
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Katrina L Halperin Age: 51
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- 3 beds
- 2 baths
- Lot: 0.32 acres
- Built in 1967
Facts
Lot size: 0.32 acres
Rooms: 6
Stories: 1
Foundation type: Concrete
Parking: Garage - Attached, 400 sqft

Who has lived here
Resident | Phone Number | Additional info | |
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Robin A Atkins
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Residential status:
Homeowner
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Adrease C Confer
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316-683-****
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Bill E Confer
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316-683-****
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Anna Galliher
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316-684-****
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Email:
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Arnold Galliher
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316-706-****
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Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Executive, Administrative, and Managerial Occupations
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- 3 beds
- 1 bath
- Lot: 0.27 acres
- Built in 1967
Facts
Lot size: 0.27 acres
Rooms: 6
Foundation type: Concrete
Parking: Garage - Attached, 400 sqft

Who has lived here
Resident | Phone Number | Additional info | |
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Industry:
Elementary/Secondary SchoolNonclassifiable Establishments
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D L Roger Age: 85
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316-682-****
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Residential status:
Homeowner
Email:
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Dorothy L Roger Age: 85
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316-682-****
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Pamela L Roger
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316-682-****
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Shelley Roger
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316-682-****
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- 3 beds
- 1 bath
- Lot: 0.38 acres
- Built in 1965
Facts
Lot size: 0.38 acres
Rooms: 5
Foundation type: Concrete
Parking: Garage - Attached, 600 sqft

Who has lived here
Resident | Phone Number | Additional info | |
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Arlene Clark
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316-734-****
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Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Administrative Support Occupations, Including Clerical Occupations
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Velma Clark
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316-734-****
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Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Administrative Support Occupations, Including Clerical Occupations
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Verne D Clark Age: 93
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316-734-****
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Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Administrative Support Occupations, Including Clerical Occupations
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Caroline K Clark Age: 66
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316-682-****
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Residential status:
Homeowner
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Elizabeth Clark Age: 93
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316-682-****
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- 2 beds
- 1 bath
- 2,016 sqft
- Built in 1967
Facts
Lot size: 0.41 acres
Rooms: 5
Foundation type: Concrete
Parking: Off street, 2 spaces, 400 sqft

Who has lived here
Resident | Phone Number | Additional info | |
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Industry:
Nonclassifiable Establishments
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See Details | |
Kenneth R Garrett Age: 68
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Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Executive, Administrative, and Managerial Occupations
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Garvis W Morgan Age: 85
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316-293-****
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Residential status:
Homeowner
Email:
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Gordon L Qualls Age: 101
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316-682-****
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Jewell Qualls
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Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Sales Occupations
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- 3 beds
- 1 bath
- Lot: 0.29 acres
- Built in 1967
Facts
Lot size: 0.29 acres
Rooms: 5
Foundation type: Concrete

Who has lived here
Resident | Phone Number | Additional info | |
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Charles A Austin
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316-686-****
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- 3 beds
- 2 baths
- Lot: 0.26 acres
- Built in 1968
Facts
Lot size: 0.26 acres
Rooms: 6
Stories: 1
Foundation type: Concrete
Parking: Garage - Attached, 400 sqft

Who has lived here
Resident | Phone Number | Additional info | |
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Glennice M Luginbill
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316-761-****
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Residential status:
Renter
Job:
Administrative Support Occupations, Including Clerical Occupations
Email:
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Olin Luginbill
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316-761-****
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Residential status:
Renter
Job:
Administrative Support Occupations, Including Clerical Occupations
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Olen E Luginbill Age: 94
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316-682-****
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Susan L Shekaramiz Age: 72
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316-946-****
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- 3 beds
- 2 baths
- Lot: 0.25 acres
- Built in 1967
Facts
Lot size: 0.25 acres
Rooms: 5
Stories: 1
Foundation type: Concrete
Parking: Garage - Attached, 400 sqft

Who has lived here
Resident | Phone Number | Additional info | |
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Delores Larkin
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316-806-****
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Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Private Household Service Occupations
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Edward Larkin
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316-806-****
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Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Private Household Service Occupations
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- 3 beds
- 2 baths
- Lot: 0.25 acres
- Built in 1968
Facts
Lot size: 0.25 acres
Rooms: 6
Stories: 1
Foundation type: Concrete
Parking: Garage - Attached, 400 sqft

Who has lived here
Resident | Phone Number | Additional info | |
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Barbara P Fuller
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316-684-****
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John B Fuller Age: 87
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316-684-****
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Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Installation, Maintenance, and Repair Occupations
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Barbara P Travis Age: 79
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316-684-****
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Earl B Hunt Age: 55
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316-204-****
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Residential status:
Homeowner
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Lola M Hunt Age: 51
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316-204-****
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Residential status:
Homeowner
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- 3 beds
- 2 baths
- Lot: 10,454 sqft
- Built in 1966
Facts
Lot size: 10,454 sqft
Rooms: 6
Stories: 1
Foundation type: Concrete
Parking: Off street, 600 sqft

Who has lived here
Resident | Phone Number | Additional info | |
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Tina Churchman
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Tina K Jones Age: 59
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Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Production Occupations
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J Rennaker
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316-651-****
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Joan D Rennaker Age: 86
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Jane A Smart Age: 82
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316-686-****
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- 3 beds
- 2 baths
- Lot: 9,583 sqft
- Built in 1969
Facts
Lot size: 9,583 sqft
Rooms: 6
Foundation type: Concrete
Parking: Garage - Attached, 400 sqft

Who has lived here
Resident | Phone Number | Additional info | |
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Jadd Munn
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316-612-****
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Andre Wilkinson
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316-612-****
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Luann Stenulson
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Dennis Wilkenson
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316-686-****
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Jill Wilkenson
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316-686-****
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- 3 beds
- 2 baths
- Lot: 10,454 sqft
- Built in 1968
Facts
Lot size: 10,454 sqft
Rooms: 6
Stories: 1
Foundation type: Concrete
Parking: Garage - Attached, 400 sqft

Who has lived here
Resident | Phone Number | Additional info | |
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Mark Broussard
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Residential status:
Renter
Job:
Food Preparation and Serving Related Occupations
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Sherri Broussard
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Ivan D Carter Age: 103
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316-682-****
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David S Ellis Age: 74
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316-687-****
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Shari S Ellis Age: 60
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316-687-****
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- 3 beds
- 3 baths
- Lot: 10,454 sqft
- Built in 1966
Facts
Lot size: 10,454 sqft
Rooms: 5
Foundation type: Concrete
Parking: Garage - Attached, 400 sqft

Who has lived here
Resident | Phone Number | Additional info | |
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Bill J Hudson
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316-686-****
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Cullen W Hudson Age: 114
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316-686-****
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Laetta J Hudson Age: 94
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316-686-****
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Kay L Thompson Age: 71
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Residential status:
Homeowner
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- 3 beds
- 2 baths
- Lot: 10,454 sqft
- Built in 1968
Facts
Lot size: 10,454 sqft
Rooms: 7
Foundation type: Concrete
Parking: Garage - Attached, 400 sqft

Who has lived here
Resident | Phone Number | Additional info | |
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316-208-****
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Industry:
Building Maintenance Services Facilities Support Services Carpet/Upholstery Cleaning
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Ed K Givens Age: 94
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316-684-****
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Eddie J Givens Age: 66
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316-684-****
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Edward K Givens Age: 94
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316-687-****
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Sandra K Givens Age: 63
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316-684-****
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Residential status:
Homeowner
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- 3 beds
- 2 baths
- 1,969 sqft
- Built in 1967
Facts
Lot size: 10,454 sqft
Rooms: 6
Stories: 1
Foundation type: Concrete
Parking: Garage - Attached, 400 sqft

Who has lived here
Resident | Phone Number | Additional info | |
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Frank Jury
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316-685-****
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Kimberly Jury
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316-684-****
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Airy R Smith Age: 104
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316-683-****
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- 3 beds
- 1 bath
- 1,783 sqft
- Built in 1967
Facts
Lot size: 10,454 sqft
Rooms: 8
Stories: 4
Foundation type: Concrete
Parking: Garage - Attached, 2 spaces, 200 sqft

Who has lived here
Resident | Phone Number | Additional info | |
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James E Cooper
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316-734-****
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Residential status:
Homeowner
Email:
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David G Dannels Age: 73
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316-686-****
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Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Building and Grounds Cleaning and Maintenance Occupations
Email:
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Nancy K Dannels Age: 71
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316-686-****
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Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Building and Grounds Cleaning and Maintenance Occupations
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Laura Dannels
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Paul Dannels
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- 3 beds
- 1 bath
- Lot: 10,454 sqft
- Built in 1968
Facts
Lot size: 10,454 sqft
Rooms: 5
Foundation type: Concrete
Parking: Garage - Attached, 400 sqft

Who has lived here
Resident | Phone Number | Additional info | |
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Fredy A Chacon
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Rita S Davis Age: 92
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316-990-****
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Residential status:
Homeowner
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Jeremy Jay Glass Age: 66
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316-688-****
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- 3 beds
- 1 bath
- Lot: 10,454 sqft
- Built in 1967
Facts
Lot size: 10,454 sqft
Rooms: 6
Foundation type: Concrete
Parking: Garage - Attached, 400 sqft

Who has lived here
Resident | Phone Number | Additional info | |
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Donna G Kubick
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Kathryn D Kubick Age: 61
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316-806-****
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Keith A Kubick Age: 77
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316-683-****
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Wesley G Mcquesten
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K Shipman
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316-612-****
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- 3 beds
- 1 bath
- Lot: 10,454 sqft
- Built in 1968
Facts
Lot size: 10,454 sqft
Rooms: 6
Foundation type: Concrete
Parking: Garage - Attached, 400 sqft

Who has lived here
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Gregory Mcneill
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George F Tong
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316-685-****
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- 3 beds
- 2 baths
- 2,576 sqft
- Built in 1967
Facts
Lot size: 0.27 acres
Rooms: 8
Foundation type: Concrete
Parking: Garage - Attached, 400 sqft

Who has lived here
Resident | Phone Number | Additional info | |
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John Dobbels
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316-683-****
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Lisa Dobbin
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316-683-****
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John T Dobbin
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316-761-****
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Loyd H Shropshire Age: 81
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316-683-****
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Tony R Shropshire Age: 54
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316-683-****
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- 3 beds
- 2 baths
- Lot: 10,454 sqft
- Built in 1964
Facts
Lot size: 10,454 sqft
Rooms: 5
Stories: 1
Foundation type: Concrete
Parking: Garage - Attached, 400 sqft

Who has lived here
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Jeffrey A Draughn
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Vickie M Draughn Age: 70
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Kary A Lathrop
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Kirk E Lathrop Age: 56
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Brian O Der Age: 53
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Market Activities
- 1303 sqft
- 3 beds
- 2 baths
This is a great property that has a lot of space and style. The pictures give you an idea but it...