Worden Hill Rd, Dundee OR

53 properties and 146 residents found on Worden Hill Rd, Dundee, OR. Find out more information with RadioAwards Address Directory.


Residents

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Janet Claire Osullivan
  • 4 beds
  • 3 baths
  • 3,218 sqft
  • Built in 1988

Facts

Lot size: 16.27 acres

Stories: 2 story

Exterior walls: Wood

Parking: Attached Garage

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
503-538-****
Categories:
Hotels
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John O Bergstrom Age: 89
503-538-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Healthcare Support Occupations
Karen L Bergstrom Age: 78
503-538-****
Josh Bergstrom

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
503-538-****
Categories:
BeveragesWineries
Type of Business:
Assumed Business Name
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503-538-****
Industry:
Wine Producer Mfg Wines
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John Paul
503-538-****
Organization:
Cameron Winery
President
John Paul
Type of Business:
Domestic Business Corporation
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  • 3 beds
  • 2 baths
  • Lot: 9.53 acres
  • Built in 1980

Facts

Lot size: 9.53 acres

Stories: 1 story with basement

Exterior walls: Wood

Air conditioning: Central

Parking: Attached Garage

Who has lived here

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Charles M Cook Age: 87
541-401-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
Constance R Cook Age: 86
541-401-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
Connie Cook
  • 2 beds
  • 5 baths
  • 1,744 sqft
  • Built in 1968

Facts

Lot size: 0.45 acres

Stories: 1 story with basement

Exterior walls: Wood

Air conditioning: Central

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
W Zipperich
Joyce Zipprich Age: 101
503-538-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Retired
William J Zipprich Age: 94
503-538-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Executive, Administrative, and Managerial Occupations
Wm Zipprich
503-538-****

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Richard E Lautzenheiser
  • 3 beds
  • 3 baths
  • 2,458 sqft
  • Built in 1965

Facts

Lot size: 0.98 acres

Stories: 1 story with basement

Exterior walls: Wood

Parking: Detached Garage

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Glen E Mccollister
503-538-****
Glenda R Mccollister Age: 70
503-538-****
Ruth G Mccollister Age: 99
503-538-****
Herbert Wesley Smith
970-468-****

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
God Scent Cleaning Service
503-554-****
Categories:
Professional Services
Type of Business:
Domestic Limited Liability Company
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Robert C Farmer Age: 60
Charles B Helvie Age: 74
503-537-****
  • 3 beds
  • 3 baths
  • Lot: 9.56 acres
  • Built in 1980

Facts

Lot size: 9.56 acres

Stories: 1 story with basement

Exterior walls: Wood

Air conditioning: Central

Parking: Detached Garage

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Nicholas C Varnum
503-537-****
Nick C Varnum Age: 72
503-537-****
  • 4 beds
  • 3 baths
  • Lot: 4.0 acres
  • Built in 1910

Facts

Lot size: 4.0 acres

Stories: 2 story with basement

Exterior walls: Wood

Air conditioning: Central

Parking: Garage - Attached

8380 Worden Hill Rd, Dundee, OR 97115-9144
For Sale $1,450,000

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
503-554-****
Categories:
Other
Type of Business:
Assumed Business Name
Site:
dundeemanor.com
Site:
dundeemanor.com
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Brad Cunningham
503-554-****
David G Godfrey Age: 73
503-554-****
Gertrude E Ankeny Age: 97
503-537-****
Scott R Ankeny Age: 69
503-537-****
  • 2 beds
  • 1 bath
  • Lot: 0.65 acres

Facts

Lot size: 0.65 acres

Stories: 1 story

Exterior walls: Wood Shingle

Parking: Attached Garage

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Donald G Barnard
503-538-****
Irene E Barnard Age: 78
503-538-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Clerical/White Collar
Sarah R Barnard Age: 45
503-538-****
Scott G Barnard Age: 50
503-538-****
  • 4 beds
  • 5 baths
  • Lot: 9.48 acres
  • Built in 1977

Facts

Lot size: 9.48 acres

Stories: 2 story with basement

Exterior walls: Other

Air conditioning: Central

Parking: Attached Garage

Sold $2,000,000

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
503-537-****
Categories:
Beverages
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503-537-****
503-537-****
Categories:
Civic Clubs & Organizations
Type of Business:
Assumed Business Name
Site:
crumbledrockwines.com
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Crumbled Rock Winery
503-537-****
Type of Business:
Assumed Business Name
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Industry:
Whol Wine/Distilled Beverages
Type of Business:
Assumed Business Name
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Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Type of Business:
Assumed Business Name
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Type of Business:
Assumed Business Name
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Industry:
Nonresidential Building Operator
Type of Business:
Assumed Business Name
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Type of Business:
Assumed Business Name
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Type of Business:
Assumed Business Name
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  • 3 beds
  • 3 baths
  • Lot: 14.66 acres
  • Built in 2002

Facts

Lot size: 14.66 acres

Exterior walls: Wood

Parking: Carport

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Type of Business:
Assumed Business Name
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Marian Blank Age: 102
503-537-****
Residential status:
Renter
Kay Edwards Age: 88
Thomas W Edwards Age: 56
503-538-****
  • 3 beds
  • 1 bath
  • Lot: 63.94 acres

Facts

Lot size: 63.94 acres

Exterior walls: Other

Air conditioning: Central

Parking: Detached Garage

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Type of Business:
Assumed Business Name
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F J Carlo Age: 75
Susanne D Metcalf Age: 76
503-550-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
Arthur L Weber Age: 91
  • 4 beds
  • 25 baths
  • 6,400 sqft
  • Built in 2001

Facts

Lot size: 9.81 acres

Stories: 1 story with basement

Exterior walls: Wood

Air conditioning: Central

Parking: Attached Garage

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
503-538-****
Industry:
Single-Family House Construction
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Bob C Herndon
503-538-****
Edward S Endresen Age: 76
Ryan A Mckay Age: 49
Residential status:
Homeowner
Marlyce F Tolvstad Age: 85
503-538-****
  • 3 beds
  • 2 baths
  • Lot: 4.52 acres
  • Built in 2010

Facts

Lot size: 4.52 acres

Stories: 1 story with attic and basement

Exterior walls: Wood

Air conditioning: Central

Parking: Attached Garage

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Industry:
Business Services at Non-Commercial SiteNonclassifiable Establishments
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Bill Sweat Age: 67
503-487-****
  • 4 beds
  • 5 baths
  • Lot: 2.54 acres
  • Built in 1973

Facts

Lot size: 2.54 acres

Stories: 2 story

Exterior walls: Other

Air conditioning: Central

Parking: Attached Garage

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Ann C Leisy
503-538-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Clerical/White Collar
Jim F Leisy Age: 75
503-538-****
James F Leisy Age: 75
503-704-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Construction and Extraction Occupations
  • 3 beds
  • 3 baths
  • Lot: 10.11 acres
  • Built in 1979

Facts

Lot size: 10.11 acres

Stories: 2 story with basement

Exterior walls: Shingle (Not Wood)

Parking: Detached Garage

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
503-538-****
Categories:
Other
Industry:
Trade Contractor
Type of Business:
Assumed Business Name
Site:
barrelfencecellars.com
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Industry:
Business Services at Non-Commercial SiteNonclassifiable Establishments
Type of Business:
Domestic Limited Liability Company
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Alan D Russakov Age: 85
503-537-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Precision Production Occupations
Gloria S Russakov Age: 83
503-537-****
Eleanor C Sims Age: 70
Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Professional/Technical
  • Lot: 15.3 acres

Facts

Lot size: 15.3 acres

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
503-554-****
Categories:
Civic Clubs & Organizations
Site:
winderlea.com
See Details
503-554-****
Industry:
Wine and SpiritsRet Alcoholic Beverages
Type of Business:
Domestic Limited Liability Company
Site:
winderlea.com
See Details
Type of Business:
Assumed Business Name
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William Sweat
Francis W Wallace Age: 96
503-538-****
  • 3 beds
  • 2 baths
  • Lot: 19.54 acres
  • Built in 1930

Facts

Lot size: 19.54 acres

Stories: 1 story with attic and basement

Exterior walls: Wood

Air conditioning: Central

Parking: Detached Garage

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
503-537-****
Categories:
BeveragesWineries
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Maresh Red Barn
503-537-****
Jim Maresh
503-537-****
Organization:
Maresh Red Barn
Owner
Jim Maresh
Type of Business:
Domestic Limited Liability Company
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Type of Business:
Assumed Business Name
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Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Jennifer L Howard
503-245-****
James Maresh
503-554-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Food Preparation and Serving Related Occupations
  • 2 beds
  • 2 baths
  • Lot: 40.48 acres
  • Built in 1970

Facts

Lot size: 40.48 acres

Exterior walls: Other

Air conditioning: Central

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
503-538-****
Categories:
Civic Clubs & Organizations
Site:
vineyardretreat.com
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Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Industry:
Business Services at Non-Commercial SiteNonclassifiable Establishments
Type of Business:
Domestic Limited Liability Company
See Details
503-538-****
Categories:
BeveragesCivic Clubs & Organizations
Industry:
Mfg Wines/Brandy/Spirits
Type of Business:
Assumed Business Name
Site:
bellavida.com
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Vida Bella
503-538-****
Bella Vida Vineyard
503-538-****
Steven Whiteside Age: 74
503-538-****

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Industry:
Wine and Spirits
Site:
erath.com
See Details
503-538-****
503-583-****
503-538-****
Industry:
Grape VineyardsWineries
Type of Business:
Limited Liability Company - Foreign
SIC:
2084 - Wines, Brandy, and Brandy Spirits
Site:
erath.com
See Details
503-538-****
503-538-****
503-538-****
Categories:
BeveragesCivic Clubs & Organizations
Industry:
Wineries
SIC:
2084 - Wines, Brandy, and Brandy Spirits
SIC6:
208401 - Wineries
Site:
Erath.com
erath.com
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503-538-****
503-538-****
Industry:
Wineries
SIC:
2084 - Wines, Brandy, and Brandy Spirits
SIC6:
208401 - Wineries
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Cal Earth
503-538-****
503-538-****
Organization:
St Michell Wine Estates
Title:
Sales Representative
  • 10 beds
  • 13 baths
  • 14,000 sqft
  • Built in 2004

Facts

Lot size: 42 acres

Stories: 3

Parking: Carport, Garage - Attached, Garage - Detached, 6 spaces

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Black Walnut Inn
503-429-****
Categories:
OtherHotels & Travel
503-429-****
Categories:
Hotels
Industry:
Bed-&-Breakfast Inns
Type of Business:
Domestic Limited Liability Company
SIC:
7011 - Hotels and Motels
Site:
uniqueinns.com
See Details
503-538-****
503-538-****
Categories:
Civic Clubs & Organizations
Site:
blackwalnut-inn.com
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Karen Utz Age: 74
503-538-****
Organization:
Black Walnut Inn & Vineyard
Title:
Owner
Industry:
Bed-&-Breakfast Inns
Site:
blackwalnut-inn.com
Owner
Karen Utz
Site:
uniqueinns.com
Industry:
Hotel/Motel Operation
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  • 7 beds
  • 11 baths
  • Lot: 31.02 acres
  • Built in 2003

Facts

Lot size: 31.02 acres

Stories: 2 story with basement

Exterior walls: Stucco

Air conditioning: Central

Parking: Detached Garage

  • 2 beds
  • 5 baths
  • Lot: 6.44 acres
  • Built in 1907

Facts

Lot size: 6.44 acres

Stories: 2 story

Exterior walls: Wood

Air conditioning: Central

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Lona M Crawford
Ted L Crawford Age: 73
503-537-****
Leesa Dawn Parker
For Sale $550,000

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Alan W Case
Genivee S Fehrs Age: 84
503-538-****
Kenneth A Fehrs Age: 88
503-538-****
Kevin Christopher Fehrs Age: 45
503-538-****
Ricky L Reynolds
  • 4 beds
  • 1 bath
  • Lot: 12.19 acres

Facts

Lot size: 12.19 acres

Stories: 1 story with attic

Exterior walls: Siding (Alum/Vinyl)

Air conditioning: Central

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Brandon L Kurtz
503-538-****
Robin C Kurtz Age: 80
503-538-****
Type:
Medical
RN (Registered Nurse)
Bryce R Kurtz Age: 45
541-403-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Precision Production Occupations
  • 4 beds
  • 5 baths
  • Lot: 6.16 acres
  • Built in 1986

Facts

Lot size: 6.16 acres

Stories: 1 story with basement

Exterior walls: Other

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Industry:
Nonclassifiable Establishments
Type of Business:
Domestic Limited Liability Company
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Michael G Murto
503-538-****
Mike G Murto Age: 78
503-538-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
Anthony Van Nice Age: 50
Lindsay A Vannice
  • 2 beds
  • 2 baths
  • Lot: 5.15 acres
  • Built in 1982

Facts

Lot size: 5.15 acres

Stories: 1 story

Exterior walls: Wood

Air conditioning: Central

Parking: Attached Garage

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Betty Callas
503-538-****
James Callas Age: 107
503-538-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Precision Production Occupations
Patricia R Callas Age: 96
503-538-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Precision Production Occupations
R Callas
503-538-****
Ruth Callas Age: 96
503-538-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Precision Production Occupations
  • 4 beds
  • 5 baths
  • Lot: 16.32 acres
  • Built in 1992

Facts

Lot size: 16.32 acres

Stories: 2 story with basement

Exterior walls: Wood

Parking: Carport

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Corinne M Fouts
503-538-****
Heidi S Fouts Age: 50
503-538-****
Merdith B Fouts Age: 78
503-538-****
Meredith B Fouts Age: 78
503-538-****
  • 4 beds
  • 5 baths
  • 4,580 sqft
  • Built in 1990

Facts

Lot size: 19.54 acres

Stories: 2 story

Exterior walls: Wood

Parking: Detached Garage

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
503-538-****
SIC:
2731 - Books: Publishing, or Publishing and Printing
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Mary Ann Hutton
503-538-****
Organization:
Canon And Hutton
Title:
Principle
Joshua Brownell
503-538-****
Jessica Grund
503-538-****
Kenneth D Canon Age: 73
503-538-****
  • 3 beds
  • 2 baths
  • Lot: 7.06 acres
  • Built in 1974

Facts

Lot size: 7.06 acres

Stories: 1 story with basement

Exterior walls: Wood

Air conditioning: Central

Parking: Detached Garage

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Industry:
Business Services at Non-Commercial SiteNonclassifiable Establishments
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Type of Business:
Domestic Limited Liability Company
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Industry:
Health/Allied Services
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Ryan J Galvin Age: 39
503-984-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
Jerome L Kerns Age: 90
503-538-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Service Occupations
  • 3 beds
  • 2 baths
  • Lot: 9.4 acres

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Carolyn Herbert
Residential status:
Renter
Job:
Protective Service Occupations
Kuhn Herbert
Carolyn V Kuhn Age: 88
503-538-****
Herbert C Kuhn Age: 88
503-538-****
Kuhn C Vineyard
  • 3 beds
  • 3 baths
  • Lot: 4.59 acres
  • Built in 1977

Facts

Lot size: 4.59 acres

Stories: 1 story with basement

Exterior walls: Other

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Kara J Mattoon
503-538-****
Karajo A Mattoon Age: 78
503-538-****
Kerry A Mattoon Age: 78
503-538-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Building and Grounds Cleaning and Maintenance Occupations
Linda L Mattoon Age: 80
503-538-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Sales/Service
Trent A Mattoon Age: 47
503-538-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Sales/Service
  • 4 beds
  • 4 baths
  • Lot: 7.52 acres
  • Built in 1978

Facts

Lot size: 7.52 acres

Stories: 2 story with basement

Exterior walls: Wood

Air conditioning: Central

Parking: Detached Garage

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Bradley A Lau
Pamela H Lau
Debra L Rosneck Age: 72
503-538-****
Mark W Rosneck Age: 70
503-538-****
Carrie A Simmons Age: 55
503-554-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
  • 3 beds
  • 5 baths
  • Lot: 7.23 acres
  • Built in 1976

Facts

Lot size: 7.23 acres

Stories: 2 story with basement

Exterior walls: Wood

Parking: Attached Garage

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
503-538-****
503-538-****
Categories:
Builders & ContractorsBuilding Remodeling & Repair Contractors
Industry:
RemodelingOther Services to Buildings and Dwellings
SIC:
7349 - Building Cleaning and Maintenance Services, Not Elsewhere
SIC6:
152100 - Single-family homes contractor
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Patsy C Simmons Age: 83
503-538-****
Industry:
General Crop Farm
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Industry:
General Crop Farm
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Amy L Rymer Age: 48
  • 3 beds
  • 3 baths
  • Lot: 4.1 acres
  • Built in 1979

Facts

Lot size: 4.1 acres

Stories: 1 story with basement

Exterior walls: Other

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Becky Myton
503-538-****
Mary E Myton Age: 89
503-538-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Clerical/White Collar
David V Myton Age: 89
541-404-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Retired

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Ian Wayne
503-538-****
Ijulia Wayne
503-538-****
Julia Stewart Wayne
503-227-****
  • 2 beds
  • 2 baths
  • 1,188 sqft
  • Built in 1993

Facts

Lot size: 40 acres

Stories: 1

Parking: Garage - Attached, 576 sqft

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Type of Business:
Domestic Limited Liability Company
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Industry:
Business Services at Non-Commercial Site
Type of Business:
Domestic Limited Liability Company
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P2G
Type of Business:
Assumed Business Name
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503-538-****
Categories:
Wholesale & Growers' Nurseries
Industry:
Whol Nursery StockNurseries-Plants Trees & Etc-W
Type of Business:
Domestic Business Corporation
SIC:
5193 - Flowers, Nursery Stock, and Florists' Supplies
Site:
treeconnect.com
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503-538-****
Type of Business:
Domestic Limited Liability Company
See Details

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Type of Business:
Domestic Limited Liability Company
See Details
503-538-****
Categories:
Insurance Services
Industry:
Insurance Companies
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Type of Business:
Assumed Business Name
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Arian Davis Age: 81
Chase K Oneil Age: 32

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Type of Business:
Assumed Business Name
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Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Steven M Williams

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Kim G Gauntt

Market Activities

To date, we have no information about market activities in 2025
Jun 2018 Listed for sale
8380 Worden Hill Rd
Price history :
  • 7,200
  • 6 beds
  • 6 baths
Oct 2017 Listed for sale
8380 Worden Hill Rd
Price history :
  • 7,200
  • 6 beds
  • 6 baths
Nov 2016 Recent Rent
10275 Worden Hill Rd
Price history :
  • 1892 sqft
  • 3 beds
  • 2.5 baths

Phenomenal location on worden hill rd in Dundee wine country. Close to restaurants, and wineries....

Aug 2016 Sold
10275 Worden Hill Rd
Price history :
  • Single-Family Home
  • 9.4 acres
  • 3 beds
  • 2 baths
Mar 2016 Listed for sale
8380 Worden Hill Rd
Price history :
  • 7,200
  • 6 beds
  • 6 baths
Jul 2015 Sold
8415 Worden Hill Rd
Price history :
$2M
  • Single-Family Home
  • 3,404 sqft
  • 9.7 acres
  • 4 beds
  • 3.5 baths

Fire Incident History

To date, we have no information about fire incidents in 2025
12 Oct 2019 Brush, or brush and grass mixture fire
Property Use —
Open land or field
Area of Origin —
Open area - outside; included are farmland, field
First Ignition —
Light vegetation - not crop, including grass
Heat Source —
Hot ember or ash
23 Aug 2016 Passenger vehicle fire
Property Use —
Outside or special property, other
Area of Origin —
Vehicle area, other
Heat Source —
Radiated, conducted heat from operating equipment
06 Aug 2016 Grass fire
Property Use —
Outside or special property, other
Area of Origin —
Open area - outside; included are farmland, field
First Ignition —
Light vegetation - not crop, including grass
Heat Source —
Cigarette
24 Aug 2010 Brush, or brush and grass mixture fire
Property Use —
Outside or special property, other
Area of Origin —
Open area - outside; included are farmland, field
First Ignition —
Light vegetation - not crop, including grass

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Incidents registered in Federal Emergency Management Agency

To date, we have no information about incidents registered in FEMA in 2025
09 Dec 2015 Power line down
Property Use —
Street, other
15 Jun 2015 Unauthorized burning
Property Use —
Outside or special property, other
15 Jun 2015 Authorized controlled burning
Property Use —
1 or 2 family dwelling
15 Oct 2014 Authorized controlled burning
Property Use —
Outside or special property, other

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Comparison graphs

House prices on 9-16585 Worden Hill Rd, Dundee OR

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Total rooms, bathrooms and bedrooms on 9-16585 Worden Hill Rd, Dundee OR

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Lot size and building area (in sqft) on 9-16585 Worden Hill Rd, Dundee OR

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